Arkadaslar, size tamamen yeni bir whey protein hakkinda fikrinizi almak istiyorum. Markasi pro-optimal-whey. Yuzde yuz eminim hic bir yerde duymadiniz. TR de yok. Netirion da yok. BB de yok. Peki farki ne? Bana bunu biri onerdi. Kendisi tum hayatini spora ve vg ye adamis. Ama dogal beslenme konusunda cok titiz. Birakin kuru, hic bir supplement (whey, kreatin aminoasit) kullanmamis hic. Whey olarak sadece burada sozu gecen whey lerden kullanmis. Fakat adami gorseniz direk bunda bir suru kur var dersiniz. Kendisi profesyonel, abd de yasiyor, trainer ve bir suru sertifikasi var. Bench press de 160kg lari deadlift lerde squat larda 200kg leri rahat goruyor. Tabii bu sporu 20 yildan fazla araliksiz yapmis. Onerdigi whey protein ile ilgili bir cikari yok, yani firma ile baglantisi yok. Zaten tek marka onermedi. Bana 4-5 marka saydi bulabilirsen bunlardan al dedi, bulmasi cok zordur dedi. Simdi diyceksiniz, weider, optimum, muscletech varken bu da neyin nesi? Bunun uretimi tamamen farkli. Sitesi soyle:
http://products.mercola.com/pro-optimal-whey/
Der ki: (ilgimi en cok ceken kismi)
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As you are likely aware, I am a huge advocate of consuming raw milk products -- and avoiding all pasteurized milk dairy products. Raw milk is one of the most profoundly healthy foods you can consume.
Once milk is heated (to approximately 163°), nutritional breakdown and chemical modification begin. Both of these denature the milk, and by extension, the whey proteins inside.
Pasteurizing destroys enzymes, weakens vitamins, denatures or damages fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamin B12 and B6, kills beneficial bacteria and promotes pathogens. I firmly believe that pasteurized milk is the number one cause of food allergies in this country, and is associated with a broad range of other symptoms.
What's more, once the protein is denatured, the vital protein-bound fats are cut loose.
Even today's most expensive whey products -- isolates, ion exchange, concentrates and hydrolyzed form -- are denatured by-products of cheese manufacturing that fall short of preserving the biological activity of the whey proteins. These damaged proteins leave just a slim range of proteins to contribute to your health.
Pro-Optimal Whey™ never uses cross-flow filtration, microfiltration, hydrolyzation, ion exchange, or any process that could denature the original proteins as found in pure, raw milk.
Pro-Optimal Whey™ uses Proserum® Whey Protein. Proserum® is a customized non-denatured, whey protein powder. It undergoes a unique pasteurization process to keep the full range of all the fragile immune balancing and restoring components of fresh raw milk.
The Proserum® used in our Pro-Optimal Whey™ is an exceptional quality natural whey protein. It took years of work to perfect the proprietary filtration and drying methods to lessen processing and retain critical nutrients.
Some vendors of whey powders will tell you that processing methods don't really matter. That is simply not true, due to the negative impact of heat and filtering.
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The milk used in Pro-Optimal Whey™ Protein Meal comes only from cows that graze on pesticide-free, chemical-free, natural grass pastures.
Grass fed cows' milk has excellent levels of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), which is transferred to you in the whey powder.
CLA may be one of the most potent antioxidant substances in your diet*. Additionally, it supports healthy weight, normal immune function, and helps promote normal insulin and cholesterol levels*.
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Cysteine is scarce in the standard American diet, leading to glutathione deficiencies. Heat and processing denature (destroy) cysteine, so it's important to use a whey powder that uses raw milk, with minimal heat and processing, like Pro-Optimal Whey™.
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Simdi fark surada, ozet olarak, diger tum wheyler isitilma surecinden geciyor ve proteinin yapisi bozuluyor. Bunun uretimi daha masrafli fakat isitilma sureci yok. Oneren kisinin dedigine gore neredeyse tamamen dogal bir whey mis bu. Kendisi de soyle demisti:
Whey isolate orani whey concentrate'e gore daha yuksek olan bir urun tercih et. Bir urunun uzerinde "%97 whey isolate" yaziyor olmasina aldanma. Bu kullanilan isolate'in saflik yuzdesidir, urun icindeki bulunma orani degil. O nedenle senin en iyi arastirma noktan, icindekiler kismini okumandir. Ideal olan, isolate'in concentrate'den once yazilmis olmasi. Bu isolate'in daha fazla olduguna tek kesin isarettir. Ayrica piyasadaki whey proteinlerinin %99'u sicak islem gorerek uretilir. Asiri isi, proteinin yapisini bozar. Buyuk zahmetler ve paralar vererek aldigin urunu daha kaslarina ulasamadan tuvalette birakiverirsin. O nedenle soguk islem ile uretilmis, ve saglikli hayvanlardan uretilen whey urunlerini tercih et. Paul Chek'in tavsiye ettigi uc yuksek kaliteli whey urununu asagida veriyorum:
1. Imuplus
2. Eclater de Sante (Essence of Life)
3. Pro-optimal whey
...bunlari elde edebilmek elbette herhangi bir urune gore cok daha zor. Ama bence deger.
Fikirleriniz? Bir arkadasim ABD de su an ve 2-3 hafta icinde gelecek. Ona aldirayim diyorum deneme icin. Simdi diyceksiniz madem ABD den eleman gelecek bununla harcama, git muscletech optimum aldir, ama su proteinin isitilmasi olayina kafam takildi.
Bir suru islemden geciyor, isleniyor ge geriye kimyasal bir sey kaliyor.
Pastorize sutun zararlarini okuduktan (bircok akademik kaynak + makale) sonra bu da bana mantikli geldi.
Son düzenleme: 19 Mayıs 2009
